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ronald reagan wouldn't avoid military strike. i think jimmy carter the regime is not taken seriously. i believe when the iranians look at ronald reagan they saw something differently and released the hostages. >> seems like a dispute in the line in the sand. you're not taking the president at his word but a lot of people will. >> i'm not taking -- i have taken his word. the word containment means military power. sanctions are here. they could go to here. much more significant sanctions could mean what he is talking about unless he clarifies. >> you believe -- >> you're interpreting containment to mean military power. i'm saying he hasn't said that. he didn't clarify that. >> how far down -- i mean, when do you stop diplomacy? you're saying sanctions aren't working as well as they should because of -- should you keep going? >> i'm not sure he should announce that publicly but i think he should have an agreement with president netanyahu on what the bright line test is and no confusion between those two men because we don't israel t
ronald reagan wouldn't avoid military strike. i think jimmy carter the regime is not taken seriously. i believe when the iranians look at ronald reagan they saw something differently and released the hostages. >> seems like a dispute in the line in the sand. you're not taking the president at his word but a lot of people will. >> i'm not taking -- i have taken his word. the word containment means military power. sanctions are here. they could go to here. much more significant...
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i think the other interesting comparison to ronald reagan is there's two ronald reagans. there was the ronald reagan who worked with democrats, who made tax reform a priority will you also raised taxes, who signed the federal law that requires that hospitals have to treat poor people when they come into the e.r. ronald reagan worked across the aisle on a lot of things and then there's the ronald reagan we hear about only in the gop primary debates, a conserve ty ideologue at every turn. if you talk about the first reagan, obama has tried to follow that path, but he's had less cooperation on offer from the congress. he didn't -- >> chris, can i make two points about that. >> he didn't want to keep -- >> sorry. that reagan ended his first term with a higher misery index than obama currently has. reagan's recession was also a fairly induced recession in order to wring inflation out of the economy, and it happened and began on his watch. obama inherited a financial collapse recession which of their nature lasts longer, and it happened before he got there. i think that helps e
i think the other interesting comparison to ronald reagan is there's two ronald reagans. there was the ronald reagan who worked with democrats, who made tax reform a priority will you also raised taxes, who signed the federal law that requires that hospitals have to treat poor people when they come into the e.r. ronald reagan worked across the aisle on a lot of things and then there's the ronald reagan we hear about only in the gop primary debates, a conserve ty ideologue at every turn. if you...
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ronald reagan said no to war with the soviet union. ronald reagan actually said yes to reducing the number of nuclear weapons in both sides arsenal's. ronald reagan was a figure almost more comfortable in barack obama's democratic party and his wing -- >> don't say that too loudly. >> check your twitter feed. >> just exploded. >> we have to take a break but we are waiting for the president to speak at the clinton global initiative. meanwhile, president obama and governor romney also spoke at nbc's education nation summit. big times. we will discuss their remarks. also paul ryan weighs in on the last night's nfl controversy and brings it back to, guess who, president obama. all of that is next on "now." want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... a little bit more vanilla? this is great! [ male announcer ] at humana, we believe there's never been a better time to share your passions... because the results... are you having fun doing this? yeah. that's a very nice cake! [ male announcer ] well
ronald reagan said no to war with the soviet union. ronald reagan actually said yes to reducing the number of nuclear weapons in both sides arsenal's. ronald reagan was a figure almost more comfortable in barack obama's democratic party and his wing -- >> don't say that too loudly. >> check your twitter feed. >> just exploded. >> we have to take a break but we are waiting for the president to speak at the clinton global initiative. meanwhile, president obama and governor...
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. >> but ronald reagan, people forget, before the debate, ronald reagan was painted as this looney, right-wing fanatic that would start world war iii, dr. strangelove, and it was the debate that stuck a needle in that balloon. >> i remember it well. >> not even born yet. i mean, this is romney's chance. >> sure. >> to connect with the american people. >> to pick up on mike's point, fascinating number from the poll is this. 51% of people who said they had heard or read something about romney in the last couple weeks said what they had heard or read made them think more negatively about him. more positively, that number was 48%. they've heard him going into this debate. this provides them a chance to say, listen, that guy you saw in the video, that's not me. i'm a different type of person. he can reset in that sense. i'm sort of with al on this. i spent a lot of time over the past week watching all of romney's debates from 2002. i watched every single debate. there were five of them. i read hundreds of clips in 2002. he was against a democrat. >> you really should get a life. >> i know, it's pat
. >> but ronald reagan, people forget, before the debate, ronald reagan was painted as this looney, right-wing fanatic that would start world war iii, dr. strangelove, and it was the debate that stuck a needle in that balloon. >> i remember it well. >> not even born yet. i mean, this is romney's chance. >> sure. >> to connect with the american people. >> to pick up on mike's point, fascinating number from the poll is this. 51% of people who said they had...
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i voted for ronald reagan in 1980. i do have a disclaimer. i was drunk that day. but he made -- you know, ronald reagan, one thing he did was he made people distrust their government. and really a lot of people hate their government. because of -- >> now, mud cat, let me ask you a question. let me ask you a question. i didn't want to cut you off. but i have to get to you because i don't want to run out of time on you and steve. i've been waiting all day because i knew you were coming on. i've looked at the polls and i understand group after group the president's establishing a commanding lead. latinos up 45 points. he leads women by 19 points. catholics by 15 points. all of them i could understand given the policy positions of this campaign. but here's one that is right down your alley to explain to me. romney is losing the nascar base, the nascar base. obama leads romney 49-42 among nascar enthusiasts, according to the new zogby poll. can you explain that? >> because thurston howell doesn't drive a car. it's that simple. nascar is a down home sport. elitism is no
i voted for ronald reagan in 1980. i do have a disclaimer. i was drunk that day. but he made -- you know, ronald reagan, one thing he did was he made people distrust their government. and really a lot of people hate their government. because of -- >> now, mud cat, let me ask you a question. let me ask you a question. i didn't want to cut you off. but i have to get to you because i don't want to run out of time on you and steve. i've been waiting all day because i knew you were coming on....
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when ronald reagan said, there you go again, it was completely natural to him. as you know, chris, carter was right, he had opposed medicare at the start, but when reagan said, there you go again, it actually sort of discounted everything else that carter had said in that debate. so they've got to be organic, they've got to be natural, they've got to be real. i think everybody at least in the political class who has seen this report is going to be watching the debate to see if we can sort of tick off, oh, that was the prepared zinger. did he bring it off? >> oh, yeah. >> the other thing is he's not very good at this. i mean, you know, i know they don't want him to be spontaneous because he'll say the wrong thing, but delivering a prepared funny line seems to me to be one of the hardest tasks, probably even harder than telling us what's in his tax plan. >> as a journalist, joan, i want your view. suppose you're watching the debate, as we all will be, everybody is going to be watching wednesday night, and you see what is obviously a prefab zinger that doesn't even
when ronald reagan said, there you go again, it was completely natural to him. as you know, chris, carter was right, he had opposed medicare at the start, but when reagan said, there you go again, it actually sort of discounted everything else that carter had said in that debate. so they've got to be organic, they've got to be natural, they've got to be real. i think everybody at least in the political class who has seen this report is going to be watching the debate to see if we can sort of...
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. >> i happen to subscribe to ronald reagan's maxim that peace comes through strength. i want to have a military that's so strong no one wants to test it. you see, you want to -- >> president obama and mitt romney both making their case to veterans in virginia today. the president talking about ending our trillion-dollar wars, at least eventually, and his opponent talking about ronald reagan. joining us now, john stanton, washington bureau chief at "buzz feed" and it's been way too long since we've had you on show. congratulations on your move,vy way, how is "buzz feed"? >> it's awe? >> one of the things you did around the convention is you greyhound bused down there, and sort of went out of your way to talk to regular on the street folks who were not necessarily getting, having their opinions plundered by pundits. when you're doing sort of "man on the street" talking to people about politics, do people ever talk about the wars? >> they do. talking, particularly, i was in savannah and talking to church people that were feeding the working poor and homeless people. there
. >> i happen to subscribe to ronald reagan's maxim that peace comes through strength. i want to have a military that's so strong no one wants to test it. you see, you want to -- >> president obama and mitt romney both making their case to veterans in virginia today. the president talking about ending our trillion-dollar wars, at least eventually, and his opponent talking about ronald reagan. joining us now, john stanton, washington bureau chief at "buzz feed" and it's...
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ronald reagan talked about we don't have political enemies but political opponents. we were never able to look at each other as each o''s emmys. now we have a generation of politicians who honest to god look across the aisle and see the differences. they don't see us as americans. they do view each other as enemies and it's having a terrible, terrible impact in being able to govern the country. we have to focus on how to make this country more competitive in ten years, 20 years. >> it's going to be hard. steve schmidt? >> i think it's fast naying that john heilemann owes five emmys to steve's very existence. >> thank you, thank you steve, thank you very much. it's a great column. >> some man love going on. frank, that's great. thank you so much. >>> up next. they just received their star on hollywood walk of fame. we'll talk to two members of the legendary band heart next on "morning joe." if we want to improve our schools... ...what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transfor
ronald reagan talked about we don't have political enemies but political opponents. we were never able to look at each other as each o''s emmys. now we have a generation of politicians who honest to god look across the aisle and see the differences. they don't see us as americans. they do view each other as enemies and it's having a terrible, terrible impact in being able to govern the country. we have to focus on how to make this country more competitive in ten years, 20 years. >> it's...
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>> ronald reagan. >> you got it. >> ronald reagan, 1980. >> '84. >> that's right. i think you both get a sticker for that one. ronald reagan in 1984 and obviously, he was at the time 73. he was running against mondale who was 56. cleaned mondale's clock. age was not used against reagan. >>> parker is back. >> nothing but a number. >> nothing but a number. parker is back for the second one. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> jamaal. >> lloyd benson in the vice presidential debate and you remembered it was lloyd benson. good job. >> nerdland for a reason. >> what state, jamaal? >> he was from texas. >> does anybody remember what dan quayle said in response? >> he said that's uncalled for. >> that's exactly it. >> crawl under the podium. >> after the laughing subsided in the crowd. >> that was a pretty good one. >> i think that's my best. >> he's being polite. he's not hitting his bell until she is through. >> here's the next parker video. >> george bush taking credit for the berlin wall coming down is like t
>> ronald reagan. >> you got it. >> ronald reagan, 1980. >> '84. >> that's right. i think you both get a sticker for that one. ronald reagan in 1984 and obviously, he was at the time 73. he was running against mondale who was 56. cleaned mondale's clock. age was not used against reagan. >>> parker is back. >> nothing but a number. >> nothing but a number. parker is back for the second one. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend...
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remember, that was his great act, and ronald reagan before him did the same thing. bill clinton, lord knows, that's what it was all about with that guy. and this guy, i mean, can't do it at all. by the way, that's also the magic of the tea party movement. >> can't you imagine having some caviar with mitt romney? bellinis? >> with special spoons you have to eat it with. it can't be silver. it's got to be whatever it is. i'm sure mitt romney can tell you all about it. he just can't switch it on. not only that, this is the republican party and conservatism generally has been coasting on this notion, this sort of populist aura that hoverses around them and he's the opposite, you know. he's -- i was reading this great story in "rolling stone" the other day by matt taibbi about how mitt romney is like all of the terrible movie villains of the last 30 years. you know, he's the rich fraternity boy that's such a snob to the guys in animal house, right? you go down the list of movie villains and this is the kind of guy. perfectly, well coifed executives who fire everybody. >>
remember, that was his great act, and ronald reagan before him did the same thing. bill clinton, lord knows, that's what it was all about with that guy. and this guy, i mean, can't do it at all. by the way, that's also the magic of the tea party movement. >> can't you imagine having some caviar with mitt romney? bellinis? >> with special spoons you have to eat it with. it can't be silver. it's got to be whatever it is. i'm sure mitt romney can tell you all about it. he just can't...
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the press didn't treat ronald reagan and george w. bush any less unfairly, and both men managed not only to win the presidency but to get re-elected. mr. romney would do better to focus more on reducing his unforced errors and less on the fourth estate's political bias. if whining about the liberal media was a winning strategy for republicans, newt gingrich would be the nominee." >> well, and newt gingrich is a great example -- i don't mean to go back there -- a great example of the problem we're talking about here. because -- >> no. >> -- no, instead of stepping forward and separating himself from this candidate, he somehow, because of his party -- >> todd akin is going to lose. that's a distraction. >> it is. >> i'm talking about the presidential race. we're one week out from the first presidential debate, and we have brand-new polling out this morning from three separate swing states that show this race is slipping away. >> and they're the big three. >> and they're the big three, mika. >> yes, they are. are you ready? >> i'm ready
the press didn't treat ronald reagan and george w. bush any less unfairly, and both men managed not only to win the presidency but to get re-elected. mr. romney would do better to focus more on reducing his unforced errors and less on the fourth estate's political bias. if whining about the liberal media was a winning strategy for republicans, newt gingrich would be the nominee." >> well, and newt gingrich is a great example -- i don't mean to go back there -- a great example of the...
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there are still people who given the possibility of what we saw in 1984 with ronald reagan and in 1980 with ronald reagan and jimmy carter where there really was a mood change. >> sure, but let's also remember that as john made reference to john kerry in 2004, he moved the needle, but he didn't move the needle nearly far enough. and the fact is that in 18 of the last 19 presidential elections whosever been leading at this point has led the popular vote. >> you remember how close kerry came, if he had won a small number in ohio, he would have been president. >> i understand that. >> and also if he had gnat gone windsurfing in nantucket. willie, the thing is, we talk about the 47% video, i'm hearing more and more people in the romney campaign as every day goes by, they understand more and more that they made a huge mistake with that libyan press conference. i'm not going to say that it was sort of that september 15th moment, the economy is sound, but john mccain last time, but i can't tell you how many pollsters are telling me that that was -- it made him look unpresidential. "the wall s
there are still people who given the possibility of what we saw in 1984 with ronald reagan and in 1980 with ronald reagan and jimmy carter where there really was a mood change. >> sure, but let's also remember that as john made reference to john kerry in 2004, he moved the needle, but he didn't move the needle nearly far enough. and the fact is that in 18 of the last 19 presidential elections whosever been leading at this point has led the popular vote. >> you remember how close...
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reagan. but it's notable that he's even trying in a campaign that's been unwilling and unable to engage america in the larger world. he's finally trying to do it. in terms of what they're going to do, on even just say the issue of war we're in right now, they have really been unwilling to engage. maybe this means they'll start. so far, i mean, famously mr. romney didn't mention the war in afghanistan at all. he explained in speeches like that you don't go through a laundry list. you go through things that are important. the war wasn't important to him. but it's not just specifically afghanistan. here's another one. if you go to mitt romney's website right now and you type the word drones into the search box on the website because you want to know his position. you will find three results. three. one result is mr. romney criticizing mr. obama after a drone crashed in iran. then there's a policy paper criticizing the obama administration for talking about drones to news outlets like "the new yo
reagan. but it's notable that he's even trying in a campaign that's been unwilling and unable to engage america in the larger world. he's finally trying to do it. in terms of what they're going to do, on even just say the issue of war we're in right now, they have really been unwilling to engage. maybe this means they'll start. so far, i mean, famously mr. romney didn't mention the war in afghanistan at all. he explained in speeches like that you don't go through a laundry list. you go through...
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reagan party. there's a huge problem that romney has to position himself. he was in a position to make it one point obama and his presidency the issue. he's lost that chance by what happened at the convention. >> actually, i think he might have lost that chance when he picked paul ryan as his running mate. >> absolutely. lynn is absolutely right. >> that's -- that is where that turned. before then, i think it was a referendum on obama's tenure as the leader of our economy. >> right. he had bob portman, he had a perfect chance to win ohio to say i'm a centrist mainstream republican. here i am. i told you people on the right where i stand on things. i'm now not going to pick the most radical, both fis fiscally and in terms of physical policy guy in washington of any influence. he went to ryan and he stuck with him now and he brought him nothing, ryan. >> charlie crist, a rmepublican and now independent and he does support president obama. governor, good to see you. to carl's point as well as lynn's a
reagan party. there's a huge problem that romney has to position himself. he was in a position to make it one point obama and his presidency the issue. he's lost that chance by what happened at the convention. >> actually, i think he might have lost that chance when he picked paul ryan as his running mate. >> absolutely. lynn is absolutely right. >> that's -- that is where that turned. before then, i think it was a referendum on obama's tenure as the leader of our economy....
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i talked about tip o'neill and ronald reagan of the 1980s. didn't see eye to eye. they got things done. '90s you and bill clinton. a fascinating character. you guys obviously didn't see eye to eye. you got things done. and bill clinton is having a huge impact in this race. rich lowry of course of the national review said if you want to see when this election turned it was in the middle of bill clinton's speech. this guy still -- you said something about georgia ads. what was that? >> i was told last night by randy evans who is the national committeeman from georgia that there are more ads in georgia for obama with clinton in them than there are with obama in them. which makes sense. you know, bill clinton is the best political figure in terms of skill since ronald reagan. >> right. >> that's just a fact. >> right. >> and his ability to communicate, i thought his speech, which i had to watch, i actually didn't watch the obama speech. >> right. >> i watched the clinton speech. i thought it would be more creative, more interesting. and it turned out to be a lot more i
i talked about tip o'neill and ronald reagan of the 1980s. didn't see eye to eye. they got things done. '90s you and bill clinton. a fascinating character. you guys obviously didn't see eye to eye. you got things done. and bill clinton is having a huge impact in this race. rich lowry of course of the national review said if you want to see when this election turned it was in the middle of bill clinton's speech. this guy still -- you said something about georgia ads. what was that? >> i...
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the government decided under ronald reagan at first, give them a tax credit. in other words, send them a tax -- >> incentivize them to work. >> ryan knows this but he's just pandering to the worst instincts of his audience. >> martin, i don't know how -- or what goes through someone like -- the head of someone like paul ryan where he isn't going to accept the framework of that proposition, which has been so damaging. really a sensible candidate wouldn't try and accept the premise of the question. he'd try and explain it. he'd say, this is where we want to move the country. not about work, but it's been so damaging to sort of accept it and engage in it and embrace it, it is such a losing proposition. even the research from his own campaign must tell him that. >> john, you have previously remarked to me on the fact you regard paul ryan as a smart man. a man that understands numbers. that 47% tape has been out there for almost three weeks and he's making that kind of comment yesterday. is he really that smart? >> well, he's very smart on the budget numbers, but h
the government decided under ronald reagan at first, give them a tax credit. in other words, send them a tax -- >> incentivize them to work. >> ryan knows this but he's just pandering to the worst instincts of his audience. >> martin, i don't know how -- or what goes through someone like -- the head of someone like paul ryan where he isn't going to accept the framework of that proposition, which has been so damaging. really a sensible candidate wouldn't try and accept the...
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. >> ronald reagan knew the way he looked from every single direction so that when he made a gesture on camera he knew how that would come across on tv. for that carter was no match. >> okay. let's take a look at the chart we just brought up there from gallup. it shows how polls changed over the course of the debates in some of the most memorable elections. have any races in your estimation, michael, been won or lost solely in the debates? >> well, aside from the reagan-carter -- that was a special case because there was only one. it was ten days before. you showed the beginning, alex, of that terrible faux-pas saying the -- gerald ford probably would have won it without that faux-pas. >>> the numbers here for 1960. we had john f. kennedy who gained three percentage points after that performance that he gave while richard nixon continuously lost ground thereafter. the story goes that it was kennedy's tan, his youthful look that won him the first televised debate. do you think that's the full story? >> i think that's part of an lore. i think much more was this. before that first debat
. >> ronald reagan knew the way he looked from every single direction so that when he made a gesture on camera he knew how that would come across on tv. for that carter was no match. >> okay. let's take a look at the chart we just brought up there from gallup. it shows how polls changed over the course of the debates in some of the most memorable elections. have any races in your estimation, michael, been won or lost solely in the debates? >> well, aside from the reagan-carter...
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so a lot of this stuff, ronald reagan ran for president in 1984 said i want to do tax reform. he didn't have a plan, he came up with his plan and passed it two years later. >> there are a fair number of specifics out from both candidates. we're trying to parch them or compare them. >> well, some people in the media. there's a lot of media. and so different people do different things. i think there's more policy analysis available to people in all of the iterations of media. >> i think this would be the best platform for debate. do we have chuck yet, alex? >> he's not -- >> oh, good. new polls out from quinnipiac university show president obama with a narrow lead heading into wednesday's debate. president obama leading 49% among likely voters. but when it comes to women, president obama has stretched a lead to 18 points, 56% to 38%. the gap tightens when it comes to which candidate would better handle the economy, just one point separates them. when asked who would win tomorrow night's debate, the president nearly doubles mitt romney 54% to 28%. that doesn't mean anything. with
so a lot of this stuff, ronald reagan ran for president in 1984 said i want to do tax reform. he didn't have a plan, he came up with his plan and passed it two years later. >> there are a fair number of specifics out from both candidates. we're trying to parch them or compare them. >> well, some people in the media. there's a lot of media. and so different people do different things. i think there's more policy analysis available to people in all of the iterations of media. >>...